Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. You don't really need any HMs, other than that first time that you had to cut the tree in the Dream Yard. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss. 2 votes. My team is already full. However, Sidney has two Grass types on his team, so be cautious. Image via The Pokemon Company. Ultimate board. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I remember Zigzagoon was in RS but I'm not sure about this one. 6. Catching one early and evolving it into Bibarel can give Pokemon players the best HM slave the series has ever seen. An HM, or Hidden Machine, is similar to a TM in Pokemon. Sturdge666 • Time to sweep some bitches • 11 yr. Skarslave. However, I would like to delete some of the HM moves (so I can give Feraligatr a move like Earthquake instead of Cut) and put them all on one or two particular Pokemon. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. Introduction. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. that seems to be the kicker for the best ones. Best Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow HM Slaves. I'd look into who can learn those. Not to mention it doesn't really make sense that I had to use a machine to teach my water type Pokemon how. Urvilan • 2 yr. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. This brings us to this ranking of the best HM Slaves in Kanto. This difficulty occurs because to the wide variety of hm slave heartgold available on the market. ~Cut. I'm not sure, but Swanna and Pelipper can learn Fly or Surf. Also, there's only 8 usable HMs. so you wouldn't need an hm slave. 5. Blubelrog isn't bad. Rock smash and Flash should be relegated to hm slaves. There are only a small handful of spots with Cut trees, so you really don't need a Cut slave. The reason it is so annoying is. ~Whirlpool (in 1 spot. PokeCommunityHey! Your account is not linked! Get you trainer hat by linking your account here!However, Bibarel, being Normal-Water type, is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. It's finding rate is 7%, but it's worth the effort. . 1. marill is also good. _stickfigure_ 13 years ago #5. 5. Top 10 HM Slaves in Pokémon. Flamethrower (STAB) Fly (STAB + HM) Dragon Claw (Coverage) Steel Wing (Coverage) Charizard is a great Pokémon in Special Attack and Speed and arguably the best Fire-Type option in the game. For the water pokemon starter u should have cut , surf , strangth , rock climb / or whirlpool. Save your valediction, Steiner. And as others have already said, HMs are almost. Normal people's HM slaves: Bidoof, Lombre or Rattata. B/W really removed the need for HM slaves. I’d say Ice Beam’s main draw is that it covers Dragon-types beautifully, specifically Dragonite. Raikiri_Knight 13 years ago #2. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. I have a Bunnelby who does Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Charizard - Cut, Fly, Dig/Earhtquake, Flamethrower. Most of those TMs are among the best in the game, including Ice Beam. Yup Bibarel is best HM slave i tought he could learn all hms but defog. ago. Dragonite can learn Fly Surf Waterfall Strenght HMs. All of these Pokemon should be obtainable relatively early. jolly_pickles 14 years ago #4. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. What Pokemon is capable of learning all of HMS Fire Red? Best Pokémon FireRed & LeafGreen HM Slaves. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. "Happy New Year. Voltares 11 years ago #1. [deleted] • 4 yr. Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. What Megas do. It is a Water/Normal-type, meaning the majority of HMs will have a STAB when used in battle. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. Why bother making a signature?but if you just started the game then you need to work a bit. Dragonite. Flash is a tricky one but you don't need it that often besides caves, so catch a voltorb for it. I always love my HM slaves just as much as any other of my Pokemon. ago. Luckily you don't need more than say three HMs at a time so it worked out. If memory serves, Bibarel and Tropius learn all 8 HMs together. NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. And it still hits hard as Waterfall, Surf & Dive are STAB. I started to play it today, and I'm gonna plan wich pokémon are going to be in my team. Mew would also be a good option, but I doubt you would want to ruin its moveset (it is better off as a. I use 2 for HM's I make Seedot use Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, then he has Hidden Power to make bases. Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. Swanna gets Fly, Surf, and Dive which is useful for travelling everywhere. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. 12. Who are the good HM Slaves? Rufflet is a good Pokemon to hold Fly, Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash (Not an HM, but once was). An HM slave, then, is a term for a Pokemon that is not used for battle but. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. It learns four HMs in Generation II, including two of the most useless, Flash and Whirlpool. who are the pokemon that can learn all of the useful hms? If you believe in Goku, and are 100% proud of it, put this in your signature. Charizard - Cut, Fly, Strength, Dig. answered Sep 28, 2014 by Rick Gastly. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. This is useful for deciding. Pokemon Black Version. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Garchomp was a new, albeit forgetful addition to Generation IV. Everywhere else, Strength and Surf simply makes traveling easier. Hi there! As suggested by Codraroll, I've decided to start a thread discussing teambuilding in-game. Bibarel and Lopunny are decent options. 1. Official Villager of the Super Smash Bros. Mew can learn all the HMs and also has more than 450 Base Power, so if you're lucky enough to have one,. History. Best answer. Strength is not a horrible move, as it has a base attack of 80, and can be used in place of moves like Slash. Hey Trachy. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. What's the best HM slave? kenneth7415 13 years ago #1. It is known as the Pokémon which resembles armor. It can also learn Rock Smash, which is still a TM in this generation, but it's very useful. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. Cut, Strength, Waterfall, RockSmash, etc. For an Hm Slave, I Would Recomend Marill, Which You Get Really Early, and Can Learn Strength, Rock Smash, Dive, and Waterfall:) answered Aug 31, 2010 by Swampert. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Zigzagoon is a common Pokémon that can be obtained early. PokeCommunityThe HM abilities should be entirely separate from a Pokemon's moves. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. Together they cover 7 of the 8 HMs making space for 4 strong. Thank you! nincada • 11 yr. If this was treated as a serious competitive challenge against the Dragon League rather than a training session, I would have replaced Yamcha with someone. No, Azumarill is not the best HM slave since you can catch Eevee early in the game, after the third gym in Castelia Sewers, and evolve it into Vaporeon. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. One move that Krabby can't learn is waterfall, and that is not a problem because Gyarados uses it. Omega Shenron's stronger than Shenron by the way. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. p. Second_Chances 8 years ago #7. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. I only used an HM slave once. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. 3DS FC: 4253-3596-9784. Related questions. Switch: 6072-8530-7630 (hotinanako); rikkiH2O: 0468-3394-0122 (please add); ACNH: Island - Kasukabe, IGN - Wesker - Claire; ACPC: 8430 8405 831 (Rikki) GundamX99 (Topic Creator) 13 years ago #3. ago. . I just used the Mew glitch to get two Mews, one for battling and one for an HM Slave, taught it Fly, Flash, Cut, and left the. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. 12. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). I used Linoone. On the other hand, Psyduck also can be caught in the same place as Azurill, however it's. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. Good thing Unova never really needed HM slaves, and the HMs you do use a lot are decent in-game AND could be stuck on my team. Krabby has an Attack stat of 1 and a base friendship of 50. This was a fun spreadsheet to make. Let me give you an example. Jul 18, 2008 #16 Bibarel : cut/strength/rock smash/rock climb Linoone is good too, but my linoone is for stealing items. While the best HM slaves tend to be defensive, there’s nothing more satisfying than OHKO-ing your opponent with a beefcake Cut attack. Actually many prefer Bibarbel and Tropius. It's an hm SLAVE and can learn most hm moves aside from fly and defog i think. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. In case of move pool: oshawatt is best Also good hm slave. "Which is more evil: Kidnapping a child to use as a tool for world domination, or using your blood child as a tool for. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. 1 Answer. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. I don't like having an HM slave. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. Excluding surf. PSN - Darigandevil (Vita and Ps3) Black 2 - 2753-3440-3329. Sharpedo for Waterfall/Surf/Dive, and Linoone for Cut/Rock Smash/Strength/Surf. Best answer. It could learn all the necessary ones but cut, which is pretty darn good. Whats your go to? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Skarmory is also a recommed HM slave because he can learn cut, fly, defog and rock smash meaning u can learn other important HM for the other 3. 3DS FC/Name: 4828-4041-0022/C Pokemon Y IGN: Termiine/ Safari: Grumpig Espurr Duosion. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. 3DS FC: 3754-7554-1160 IGN: Danny. The best team: - Jirachi, can get before second gym doing a sidequest. It comes at a pretty high cost, and for a good reason. Cut: Parfum Palace (in the maze out back, near the bottom)3 Answers. I'm preparing to head to indigo plateau, and I was just wondering what pokemon everyone used as their HM Slaves. In Pearl. ago. If you want an HM slave, I highly recommend catching a Nidoran outside of Goldenrod. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. brStalker 12 years ago #4. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very few advantages that it can wreck with a HM) dragonite (1 of the 2 pokemon that learn every HM) arceus (a third pokemon that learns all HM's In the 4th gen ) hydrigon. He's a great HM slave though. paipr 10 years ago #8. Cut: Virbank City (from Roxie) Fly: Route 5 (from Bianca) Surf: Route 6 (from Cheren) Strength: Castelia Sewers (from Hugh) Waterfall: Victory Road (from N) Dive: Undella Town (from Hugh after defeating Elite Four) I think the best HM mules are Psyduck and either Braviary or Mandibuzz. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Meowth (Cut & Flash) Paras (Cut & Flash) Krabby (Cut, Surf, Strength,. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves?Technically the best HM slave is Mew. The reasoning is that I would never deposit my dearest Dragonite & because of breeding I kinda got attached to my slugma :) 1. machamp. skarmory is one of the best but you can only get it. hm-slave. 5 kg (111. Delightfully enough, not necessary in this game because you get key item replacements quickly. Pokémon Yellow keeps everything the same. It fulfills the ideal requirements for an HM mule in that it can learn four HMs: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, and. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. 4. ago. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. Linoone, the best hm slave. Reply. However, they are useful in most areas to access extras like items behind. discdeath • 13 yr. 1. Zigzagoon can learn Surf. Hidden Machines (HMs) in Red/Blue/Yellow. Linoone. Smeargle. (Zigzagoons) until I fill up my team with other members. Playstation All-Stars is the best game ever made. An HM-slave Gyarados would have: -Surf (bit of a waste since it's a special attack, but it has STAB at least) -Waterfall (a pretty powerful physical water attack with STAB) -Dive (used to be a crappy move, but now has 80 power; it's physical and also has STAB) -Strength (decent normal attack with no STAB, but with Gyarados's high attack, would. Dont quote me on that tho. The two cover every HM. You don't need an HM slave in this game. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. i recommed bibarel, ferret or linoone for cut, surf, strength, rock smash & whirlpool (HGSS) where bibarel is the most usefull HM slave because he can also learn waterfall and rock climb. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Meowth (Cut & Flash) Paras (Cut & Flash) Krabby (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Marill (Strength/Waterfall/Dive [Rock Smash/Surf]) Zigzagoon (Cut/Surf/Rock Smash) Pick Up is a decent ability to take along! For Fire Red I didn't use dedicated HM slaves, too lazy to look up what pokémon could fill the role. Dragonite. My Pickup Linoone. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. . Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Flygon is the powerhouse of the team (it's worth training up. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. Flash replaced shortly after Rock Tunnel. In stats, bidoof. Also you may want an HM slave to carry the weak HMs like Rock-smash and Cut. It also has Pickup. he can learn rock smash, rock climb, strengh,. May 1, 2008. Vaporeon is much bulkier than Azumarill as it has more HP, and a better special defense. with pokèsav magikarp is an excellent hm slave. Early on in the postgame (or possibly on Route 10, IDK) you'll get a Super Rod from someone, and if you fish in a "rippling spot" (the water equivalent of a shaking grass patch) then you stand. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. 5. Piranha Plant isn't from a dead series. He also evolves into one of the best HM slaves of all time. Dont quote me on that tho. 26. source source Linoone is good. We need some HM slave appreciation. Answers. Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. While I was doing that I realized he. Then my polywhirl knows. Depending on how you teach them, or what's most important. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm. . Papatheodorou a. Bibarel. Alternatively, Gyarados can be used as an HM slave, as it learns all three Water HMs and Strength. Bibarrel. The other Gyarados I use it as an elemental slave - attacks are an. In the end though, If I find I no longer need an HM (after all. . Bibarel (Cut, Waterfall, Surf,. I was wondering, what is the best early and solid HM slave you could get? First time playing gen4 so not that much knowledge on it. Link to comment. It is a. 3. [deleted] • 4 yr. Don't get mad, get gllad. Waterfall is STAB boosted by Mystic Water and it’s. HM mule. Top Voted Answer. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. . and the HMs they can learn? i've got surf already on my starter. Cut+Flash+Rock Smash: Paras, Tangela, Bulbasaur, Mew. Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. Gyarados is also great. Re: HM Slaves. This is especially true if you’re looking for an alternative to the usuals. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. FE:Fates - MyCastle: Birthright ~ Rare Skills. If none slaves you carry around are going to have these moves you should be looking for 2 pokemon who can learn the remaining 5 to 7 HM's your current game requires and fill the. Advertisement Coins. I guess Flash too. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. But you shouldn't need to. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. SS FC: 1892 3402 3141. 1. " Carracosta is pretty good for water based HMs (surf, dive, waterfall), Ducklette/Swanna can both learn surf and fly which is pretty handy as well. For years and years HMs were a necessary evil in the Pokémon games, but we were clever and found ways around that; namely by creating the HM Slave who only e. Ironchar • 4 yr. He could just have really low special stats, and high attack and defense. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. This giant jellyfish is known throughout the franchise as one of the most annoying creatures as it shows up in almost every game. selected Sep 28, 2014 by Legend Of Lotad. Mine: : r/pokemonuranium. Fenor • 13 yr. Kadabra for sure. if you. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. Krabby was introduced in Generation 1 and it is nicknamed the River Crab Pokémon. ago. asked Nov 13, 2014 by VaporeonBlue. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. Soaring was the best part of ORAS and not because it was fun, or added all those new places, but because I no longer have to forcibly work a Pokémon that knows fly into my team. Cut. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New; Controversial; Q&A; Add a Comment. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. credit to a liikala post. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. -Rocksmash. since: Mar 2009. Premium Powerups. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. Farfetch'd - cut - fly Best. HM's and Field Moves:-SURF -WATERFALL -WHIRLPOOL -ROCK SMASH -HEADBUTT -TELEPORT -FLY -ROCK CLIMB -DIG-MILK DRINK -SOFTBOILED -CUT -STRENGTH -FLASH DIG = useful and awesome, rather a must to have on something as it makes ESCAPE ROPE "useless"; give an EVERSTONE to a Diglett or use TM 28 on an ONIX. This is a joke look at TC. Cut: Virbank City (from Roxie) Fly: Route 5 (from Bianca) Surf: Route 6. To help you choose the finest hm slave heartgold available on the market, we have produced a detailed guide. The point in HM slaves are to get as many HM's onto 2 pokemon as possible. Bibarel, Aerodactal, Dragonite, Suicune, Skarmory, and Gyarados all have the potential to learn 4+ HMs. 2. 10 Best hm slave firered Reviews: 1. 1. You can say "ass" on GameFAQs. 360 GT: Doom Pie. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). This list will lay out some of the best Pokémon to catch specifically for HM use. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Actually, as it turns out, the only HM you need to get fully through the game is Cut. Most Water and Grass types are good choices, namely Gyarados and Tropius. Nidoran (both male and female) are easy enough to get to. See quote for information about quotes. 8. Like. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. jschristy 13 years ago #9. 2. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. Yeah there's a house with the move deleter, re-learner, and tutor. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. 2nd gen i used krabby for surf/cut/strength/whirlpool and tentacool for whirlpool/waterfall/surf (though most waters do this) 3rd gen Tropius, cut/flash/fly/strength (or rock smash) 4th bibarel, easily. Reply1 Answer. Logistically: Kadabra But an HM write off will need to be good with water, so balance-wise marshtomp might be the one that takes the bench for now. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Well, the 4 main HMs you need to get through the game are. Oh wow according to serebii, sentret can learn: Cut, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool. R - Official Slowpoketail Vendor. Mandibuzz can learn Fly and Cut. Its catch rate is 25 (3. Mew is the obvious choice. Braviery was a great HM slave in White 2, being able to do fly and the land based ones but couldn't do any of. Apr 29, 2013. Pokemon Black Version 2. Best HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the bunch like surf, fly and waterfall. Boards. No. 2. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. 1.